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Samson
Samson User
30 Oct. 2019 3:11 PM
Bzgl.: https://www.xrel.to/p2p/231648-Scarface-1983-German-DTSX-DL-2160p-UHD-BluRay-HDR-HEVC-Remux-NIMA4K/comments.html

Habe mir aus Scarface.1983.MULTi.COMPLETE.UHD.BLURAY-PRECELL mittels MakeMKV einen Remux erstellt.
Schon da stand nichts von DTS:X und hat mich natürlich stutzig gemacht.

Mein fertiger Remux hat folgende Mediainfo:

MediaInfo
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GeneralMatroska • 73.9 GiB
Unique ID:331249159078699800345821908464371762628 (0xF9344477C09A35923E25DE261D8805C4)
Complete name:/Volumes/Beta/Filme/CUSTOM UHD/Scarface (1983)/Scarface.1983.German.DL.DTS-HD.2160p.UHD.BluRay.HDR.HEVC.Remux-.mkv
Format:Matroska
Format version:Version 4 / Version 2
File size:73.9 GiB
Duration:2h 49mn
Overall bit rate mode:Variable
Overall bit rate:62.3 Mbps
Movie name:Scarface
Encoded date:UTC 2019-10-29 21:34:31
Writing application:mkvmerge v9.0.0 ('Power to progress') 64bit
Writing library:libebml v1.3.3 + libmatroska v1.4.4
DURATION:02:49:30.681000000
NUMBER_OF_FRAMES:96
NUMBER_OF_BYTES:327897
_STATISTICS_WRITING_APP:mkvmerge v9.0.0 ('Power to progress') 64bit
_STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC:2019-10-29 21:34:31
_STATISTICS_TAGS:BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES
VideoV_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC • 57.0 Mbps • English
ID:1
Format:V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Codec ID:V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration:2h 49mn
Bit rate:57.0 Mbps
Width:3 840 pixels
Height:2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio:16:9
Frame rate mode:Constant
Frame rate:23.976 fps
Bits/(Pixel*Frame):0.287
Stream size:67.7 GiB (92%)
Language:English
Default:Yes
Forced:No
DURATION:02:49:51.432000000
NUMBER_OF_FRAMES:244350
NUMBER_OF_BYTES:66683162740
_STATISTICS_WRITING_APP:mkvmerge v9.0.0 ('Power to progress') 64bit
_STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC:2019-10-29 21:34:31
_STATISTICS_TAGS:BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES
Audio #1DTS • 1 639 Kbps / 1 510 Kbps • 8 channels / 6 channels • English
ID:2
Format:DTS
Format/Info:Digital Theater Systems
Format profile:MA / Core
Codec ID:A_DTS
Duration:2h 49mn
Bit rate mode:Variable
Bit rate:1 639 Kbps / 1 510 Kbps
Channel(s):8 channels / 6 channels
Channel positions:Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: L R, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate:48.0 KHz
Bit depth:24 bits
Compression mode:Lossless / Lossy
Title:English - DTS-HD 7.1
Language:English
Default:No
Forced:No
DURATION:02:49:51.424000000
NUMBER_OF_FRAMES:955446
NUMBER_OF_BYTES:7379467244
_STATISTICS_WRITING_APP:mkvmerge v9.0.0 ('Power to progress') 64bit
_STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC:2019-10-29 21:34:31
_STATISTICS_TAGS:BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES
Audio #2DTS • 754 Kbps • 2 channels • English
ID:3
Format:DTS
Format/Info:Digital Theater Systems
Codec ID:A_DTS
Duration:2h 49mn
Bit rate mode:Constant
Bit rate:754 Kbps
Channel(s):2 channels
Channel positions:Front: L R
Sampling rate:48.0 KHz
Bit depth:24 bits
Compression mode:Lossy
Stream size:917 MiB (1%)
Title:English - DTS 2.0
Language:English
Default:No
Forced:No
DURATION:02:49:51.424000000
NUMBER_OF_FRAMES:955446
NUMBER_OF_BYTES:978376704
_STATISTICS_WRITING_APP:mkvmerge v9.0.0 ('Power to progress') 64bit
_STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC:2019-10-29 21:34:31
_STATISTICS_TAGS:BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES
Audio #3DTS • 1 639 Kbps / 1 510 Kbps • 8 channels / 6 channels • German
ID:4
Format:DTS
Format/Info:Digital Theater Systems
Format profile:MA / Core
Codec ID:A_DTS
Duration:2h 49mn
Bit rate mode:Variable
Bit rate:1 639 Kbps / 1 510 Kbps
Channel(s):8 channels / 6 channels
Channel positions:Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: L R, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate:48.0 KHz
Bit depth:24 bits
Compression mode:Lossless / Lossy
Title:German - DTS-HD 7.1
Language:German
Default:Yes
Forced:No
DURATION:02:49:51.424000000
NUMBER_OF_FRAMES:955446
NUMBER_OF_BYTES:4295995124
_STATISTICS_WRITING_APP:mkvmerge v9.0.0 ('Power to progress') 64bit
_STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC:2019-10-29 21:34:31
_STATISTICS_TAGS:BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES
And more...


Laut Mediainfo ebenfalls DTS-HD.
Habe ich da in meinem Workflow einen Fehler oder geben die Programme einfach nur falsche Informationen aus?

Nutzen tue ich:

MakeMKV 1.14.5
mkvtoolnix GUI 9.0
Mediainfo Lib 7.60

Hoffe jemand kann mir weiterhelfen! :)

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bam bam
bam bam Produktinfo-/.nfo-Verwaltung
30 Oct. 2019 3:41 PM
Samson wrote:

Habe mir aus Scarface.1983.MULTi.COMPLETE.UHD.BLURAY-PRECELL mittels MakeMKV einen Remux erstellt.
Schon da stand nichts von DTS:X und hat mich natürlich stutzig gemacht.


Scarface.1983.MULTi.COMPLETE.UHD.BLURAY-PRECELL.nfo wrote:

Audio XXX ................. German DTS: X
English DTS: X
English DTS 2.0
Italian DTS 2.0 (Mono)
Spanish DTS 2.0 (Mono)
Turkish DTS 2.0 (Mono)


???

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Samson
Samson User
30 Oct. 2019 3:58 PM
Selbes Spiel gerade bei Casino.1995.MULTi.COMPLETE.UHD.BLURAY-PRECELL

Laut NFO DTS:X in Englisch & Deutsch, in MakeMKV steht folgendes:


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Mediainfo nach dem Remux:

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Video
ID : 1
Format : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration : 2h 58mn
Bit rate : 59.8 Mbps
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.300
Stream size : 74.4 GiB (93%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
DURATION : 02:58:13.641291666
NUMBER_OF_FRAMES : 256391
NUMBER_OF_BYTES : 76288208042
SOURCE_ID : 001011
_STATISTICS_WRITING_APP : MakeMKV v1.14.5 darwin(x64-release)
_STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC : 2019-10-30 13:50:25
_STATISTICS_TAGS : BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES SOURCE_ID

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile : MA / Core
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 2h 58mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 1 639 Kbps / 1 510 Kbps
Channel(s) : 8 channels / 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: L R, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossless / Lossy
Title : Surround 7.1
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No
DURATION : 02:58:13.642666666
NUMBER_OF_FRAMES : 1002529
NUMBER_OF_BYTES : 4689211516
SOURCE_ID : 001100
_STATISTICS_WRITING_APP : MakeMKV v1.14.5 darwin(x64-release)
_STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC : 2019-10-30 13:50:25
_STATISTICS_TAGS : BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES SOURCE_ID

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile : MA / Core
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 2h 58mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 1 639 Kbps / 1 510 Kbps
Channel(s) : 8 channels / 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: L R, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossless / Lossy
Title : Surround 7.1
Language : German
Default : No
Forced : No
DURATION : 02:58:13.642666666
NUMBER_OF_FRAMES : 1002529
NUMBER_OF_BYTES : 4652448172
SOURCE_ID : 001101
_STATISTICS_WRITING_APP : MakeMKV v1.14.5 darwin(x64-release)
_STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC : 2019-10-30 13:50:25
_STATISTICS_TAGS : BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES SOURCE_ID

Audio #3
ID : 4
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Format profile : Dolby Digital
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2h 58mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 245 MiB (0%)
Title : Stereo
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
DURATION : 02:58:13.664000000
NUMBER_OF_FRAMES : 334177
NUMBER_OF_BYTES : 256647936
SOURCE_ID : 001105
_STATISTICS_WRITING_APP : MakeMKV v1.14.5 darwin(x64-release)
_STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC : 2019-10-30 13:50:25
_STATISTICS_TAGS : BPS DURATION NUMBER_OF_FRAMES NUMBER_OF_BYTES SOURCE_ID


Rechnet MakeMKV da etwa um?
:~

Edited 1 times, last at 30 Oct. 2019 3:59 PM

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bam bam
bam bam Produktinfo-/.nfo-Verwaltung
30 Oct. 2019 4:23 PM
DTS: X sind nur Metadaten die auf DTSHD "draufliegen"...scheinbar erkennt MakeMKV es nicht wie bei Atmos...

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darum User
30 Oct. 2019 4:34 PM
Ja Makemkv betitelt nicht gut/richtig.
Im erstellten MKV heissen die Tonspurren meist nur Surround 5.1 usw.
Deswegen bearbeite ich nach erstellung mit Makemkv die files nochmal kurz mit MKVtoolnix und Betitel mir die einzelnen Spuren wie ich sie benannt/richtig haben will.

Du scheinst ausserdem eine veraltete oder nur für Win95-2000 gedachte Mediainfo Version zu benutzen. Nimm mal die neueste Mediainfo 19.09. und poste die damit Erstellte info zum vergleich.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DTS-HD_Master_Audio
Edited 1 times, last at 30 Oct. 2019 4:39 PM

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Samson
Samson User
30 Oct. 2019 4:35 PM
Gut zu wissen, ich arbeite erst seit 2 Tagen überhaupt mit UHD, bin in der Hinsicht also noch nicht so bewandert.

Des Rätsels' Lösung:

Die Vermutung dass MakeMKV DTS:X als DTS-HD bezeichnet ist korrekt. Egal welche Version/OS. Umgerechnet/Transkodiert wird nichts!

Lässt sich dann auch sehr gut in der aktuellen Windows-Version von MediaInfo begutachten:


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Hier steht nun auch wieder DTS:X.

Die MacOS-Variante ist in dieser Hinsicht nicht korrekt:


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Etwas verwirrend das Ganze, aber vielen Dank für die Hilfe! :)

mfg




Edited 1 times, last at 30 Oct. 2019 4:36 PM

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